Cannonfire: "Some thoughts about Hillary, propaganda, 2012 and related matters... (UPDATED: A lying ratf*#^ker stands exposed))"
...Joe, I would suggest the issue you have not grappled nor addressed because it is a woman thing and you seem less interested, is the cadre of women who may have felt threatened by Hillary Clinton suddenly have more prominence then they did.
List of well known women who probably felt threatened by a Hillary Clinton presidency include, Nancy Pelosi, Oprah Winfrey, Arianna Huffington, Maria Shriver, and Donna Brazile.
None of these women wanted to be second fiddle to Hillary Clinton as president. Rather than remain neutral in 2008 when either the first african american male president or the first female president could have been elected, these women chose to go for the male candidate well before all the democratic primary votes were counted for reasons that are probably too embarrassing for them to ever admit in public, petty jealousy.